jason is on our line from -- for republicans calling from seattle, washington. caller: thank you for taking my call. ms. summers, you exhibit the knowledge that is rarely seen on the "washington journal" about things of this nature. one senators set to another senator, we should just go over the -- 1 senator said to another senator, we should just go over the cliff. i do not know if people would be happy if they paid attention to her little conference. i appreciate your knowledge of sequestration. guest: thank you so much for your call. i actually spoke to senator patty murray. she said, let's just go over the cliff and see what happens. we have been calling them the cliff jumpers. she said to me, if there is not some kind of fix -- see is optimistic there would be one -- that would be detrimental for washington and outside of the seattle area. that is a concern i am hearing from her and other representatives from the states of washington. despite the rhetoric that sometimes goes on on capitol hill, that is something she is concerned about. she recognizes how im